A Two Tiered, Untiered OTL

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For those that don't follow the Overload Teams League, here are some examples of somewhat common scores: a close 96-93 game, a double-your-score 125-62 blowout, a comfortable 84-52 win, and a please PuDLeZ don't ever put 10 people into Indika again 283-252 throwdown.

And then there's this.

That's two-time OTL champion Invidia taking out winless Rogue Pilots by the score of 110 to 5. Ouch.

Here are the all time records that this game produced:

  • Highest Team KDA: 26.4
  • Fewest Team Deaths: 5
  • Highest Team Damage per Death: 2600.8
  • Highest Individual KDA: 84.0
  • Fewest Individual Deaths in 2v2: 1
  • Highest Individual Damage per Death: 8196.6

You may not understand these numbers, but rest assured, they are impossible numbers to get, especially given RP decided they're not playing anymore with their current roster until they can get some more pilots on their team.

Immediately, questions across the league were asked about why such a game should be counted. The answers are many, as are the arguments against. I sat on this for a couple days, thinking of a way to resolve this.

The obvious first solution is to divide the league into 2 tiers. Only count games when upper tier teams play upper tier teams and when lower tier teams play lower tier teams. On the surface, this sounds like a great idea until you realize there are only 11 teams, plus Rogue Pilots, which means that if we did this, we would essentially be dividing the league into two tiny tiers. Then you'd have to worry about league promotion/demotion tournaments and all kinds of other unpleasantries that an 11 team league simply does not have the patience for. This also has the drawback of disallowing play between lower tier teams and upper tier teams, at least from the formalized perspective. Sure, we could count "practice" games, but I am not made of enough time to track those practice games in this small of a league. I feel like the point at which I do something like this would be at 16 teams.

The second solution is to mark a team on a case-by-case basis as a practice squad. This would mean that the OTL is exclusive, and requires teams to prove themselves before they can start playing games that mean something. It would require manual intervention to get teams into the main league before they started playing games that count. That is not what the OTL is about. I am fine with teams that don't have skilled players trying to learn by playing against teams with skilled players. However, something has to be done about the current situation.

Putting everything together, I thought about what could work and what couldn't work. I don't want to exclude anyone, but I don't want to have the "NBA champions vs. bad high school basketball team" count for records. So, I came up with a system that allows those games to happen, but for the stats not to fully count.

The answer is an two tiered, untiered league.

It is untiered because a championship team can play a winless team, and have the game be meaningful on a league-wide level (provided the winless team decides to remain active). The standings page simply doesn't change. All teams are listed and rated accordingly.

What is two-tiered, however, shows up in individual stats. Going forward, individual stats are only displayed for games played vs. the upper league. That means when Rogue Pilots plays Invidia, Invidia is not playing for personal stats, only a team win. Rogue Pilots, however, do get to play for individual stats. That way, everyone's stats - from the top team to the bottom team - show their performance against only the upper league teams, and they can be reasonably compared. You can still see a pilot's stats against the entire league by going to their pilot page and selecting the appropriate option. However, everywhere else only shows stats vs. upper league teams.

This, of course, leads to the question of who is in the upper league and who is in the lower league. I thought about this, and again did not want to be exclusionary by saying only RP should be in the lower league. So, I have retroactively applied the following formula to determine who is upper and lower league:

  • The first eight teams in the league are automatically assigned upper league.
  • All new teams thereafter are assigned lower league.
  • At the conclusion of the season ending tournaments, the league is re-divided, with the six teams that make the knockout stage plus two other teams assigned to the upper league.
  • In seasons that have it, the two finalists of the season-ending Best of the Rest II tournament are the other two teams that make the upper league. In seasons that don't have it, the top two teams by the previous season's rating that did not make the knockout bracket make the upper league.

There are obvious caveats with this. First, one of the newest teams in the league, The Boys, are made of pilots that came from other upper league teams. They're pretty good, too, The Boys hold 3rd in the current season standings. Should they be lower league? The answer is yes. This is still a new team with a new dynamic that other teams need to become familiar with, so for a single season TB is considered lower league. Once they finish the Championships in the top 8 - and I have no doubt they will as half of their team was a large part of OMG's recent run of top 4 OTL finishes - they can be assigned to the upper league.

Second, if a team leaves the league mid-season, what should happen? One, that team loses the right to be upper tier, even if they return later that season. Two, there needs to be a way to fill the spot, and that will fall to 3rd place from the most recent Best of the Rest II tournament.

Third, if a team chooses to sit out of the Season Championships, what should happen? There are teams that aren't quite so competitive that they need to rank themselves in a season ending tournament. However, they may clearly be an upper tier team that just chooses not to play. So, if a team that sits out a tournament was upper tier in a previous season, I think the fairest solution is to play a separate series against the lowest upper tier team after the end of season tournaments are over, and the winner gets that spot.

There are probably other things that I'm not thinking of. It's probably not a perfect system, but to make sure that we're not excluding other teams and at the same time making sure we don't get ridiculous records (Yinut's 0 death game is also out of the record books after this update) that can't be beat under normal circumstances, this will do in a pinch.

There are two other minor changes that result from this update:

  • New teams are automatically set as not qualified to affect ratings (ie: ratings for games played against that team do not count) until they have played everyone 3 times. This is to ensure that teams that show up for half a season and then disband don't hit the ratings at all. Side note: I really need to come up with a term other than "not qualified".
  • Because it's a little more important now, the group stage will be returning to the Best of the Rest II tournament. The specific format of that will depend on how many teams play in it. A 3rd place match will only be played if it is necessary, ie: multiple upper tier teams disband at the end of the Championships.

There is also the ethical angle of the team that carried out that 110 to 5 victory. As of the beginning of the year, there is nothing to be gained for your team by getting 22 times the score of your opponent. It's no different than winning 110 to 109. Did the league's focus on stats make Invidia feel like creating a blowout like this was justified? I would like to think better of our pilots, but I can't discount that possibility either. I've also played in a game against RP where I got an outsized KDA, and all it made me want to do was never play them again, because it simply wasn't a challenge. If stats are a motivator for this kind of thing, I hope that by eliminating the source of motivation, games like these won't happen again, unless the lower team really wants the upper team to go hard.

This is a large update to the league structure. It seems like a lot is changing. But honestly it's a small update overall. I feel I owe it to the league to make sure that incidents such as the 110 to 5 game are just looked at as a footnote, rather than a lightning rod for drastic change. Ultimately, this isn't a drastic change, and it doesn't change the way the league operates on a day to day basis. Only individual stats are affected. The biggest controversy will probably be which team is in what tier, and if that's all that comes of this, this update will be a success.

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So That Bird Hell Site refugees seem to be divided between here and Cohost. Seems the more technically inclined end up here. Why is beyond me, this site doesn't take any special technical skills to use.

In addition to following Twitter (for now), I feel like I'm going to eventually have to make a decision to either follow both sites, or abandon those that moved to Cohost in favor of brevity and sanity. It's not a decision I will make lightly.

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I recently learned Win+Shift+S exists.

I'll have to see how well it works with games, but for work this is a godsend because I can't install ShareX here.

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So, one eighth? 🙃

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I know I have some Manchester game dev folks following me. https://t.co/AsfoBR9ow0
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This doesn't seem real!

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This is the first step in removing chronologically ordered posts... They make the algorithm the default option and in a couple of months they will say "oh no one uses chronological posts, so we're removing it".

This is how you make Twitter useless to nearly everyone. https://t.co/Q80AOpifRY
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OK this is the weirdest thing.

Some idiot signed me up for a mailing list I do not want to be on. The mailing list requires you to enter first name and email. So this idiot used my email... but for the name they included a CRYPTO 12-WORD RECOVERY KEY??????? What even the actual is this?

I don't do crypto, so if someone's trying to scam me they're wasting their time.

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IT'S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!

There were TWENTY chocolate squares in our bag of Ghirardelli peppermint bark chocolates instead of nineteen.

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Apparently Twitch won. None of Pixeltris's solutions for ads work anymore, not even the proxies.

Fortunately, Streamlink Twitch GUI still works, but it is a VERY sub par experience.

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Turns out MineSweeper Tetris is fun. Leaderboards have been swept!

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Well now I'm going to have to go for the leaderboard sweep.

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. :)

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Ah, just what I wanted to do after the holidays. Board an airplane. Ugh.

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I actually signed up for a nostr account. It's under @roncli. Good luck actually finding it, it seems like their website is borked AF. At least I'm verified, though!

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A lot of folks think Mastodon is confusing to use.

Boy, they haven't tried nostr yet, have they.

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Mulling permanently closing this account and never opening this site again. You all are wonderful people, but I question whether this place is worth it anymore. https://t.co/Pmzltt4fXn
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Said post: mastodon.social/@roncli/108814

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Some time ago, I made a blog post with the sentence, "The guy is an asshole." In that sentence, I linked every word to a separate article about HOW he is an asshole.

Fast forward 2 months later, and I think I'm going to challenge myself to extend that to a link for every letter. What's scary is that it shouldn't be too hard. 🙃

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Seems like it's on the Cohost/Tumblr side of the aisle in terms of post length and content. It also has optional monetization for your posts, whatever, I won't use that but I'm sure it's a nice option for some.
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This is the AI in question. Pretty neat concept. I was told it has been "nerfed" to give humans a chance. I think they nerfed it too hard. freshconsulting.com/work/micro

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Today I played air hockey against an AI on its hardest difficulty, and won seven to nil. 🙃

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Taco Bell: "Do you need any sauce?"

Me: "No, we shouldn't need a..."

Taco Bell: *dumps entire container of sauce into bag*

Me: "...thanks, I guess?"

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Worked a bit on Descent 1 DXX-Retro's code today a bit. That code base is so icky. But, I have it compiling in Visual Studio thanks to Sirius, so at least that's a start.

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Don't get me wrong, the event itself is fine. I just end up getting home late and feeling like I've ran a marathon.

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Time for another round of program increment planning, AKA introvert torture. 😞

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Did Subnautica update for a more immersive experience or is my place having a small flood?
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@shanselman Seen at Starbucks!

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As silly as this tiny font looks, it is employed in a way that makes me feel like I broke the game and did something epic. GGs to the devs on this one!

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After a 110-5 score line, it became apparent change was needed in the OTL. Well, change is coming. This update should go live tomorrow. roncli.com/blogger/43463416270

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After a 110-5 score line, it became apparent change was needed in the OTL. Well, change is coming. This update should go live tomorrow. https://t.co/j8TwWzLogN
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The value proposition for Mastodon, as a Twitter replacement, has flipped since the last time I tried it:

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Crazy post on Tumblr about YouTube and the downside of what they consider "success". h/t to Lilac, not something I would reblog over there so here it is instead. at.tumblr.com/ohnoitstbskyen/t

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Hmm, apparently you can't add a text description to an image upload after the fact. Would be a nice addition for when you forget.

For those wondering, that's a bottle of Ramune and a box of Pocky.

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Name a more iconic duo. I'll wait.

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How you can tell Twitch is updating their ads to combat ad blockers? Check Google Trends for "pixeltris".

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Ronald M. Clifford
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The Overload Teams League had a team anarchy game result of 110 to 5 today. The awful one-sidedness of such a game aside, this skews stats and records in a very bad way.

I think I've come up with a reasonable way to solve it, but boy is the SQL for this site becoming mind bending.

And what's worse: I have to convert it all to MongoDB when I do the Docker conversion project. I'm going to be a MongoDB aggregation EXPERT by the time that's over.

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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Bump now that people are serious about it. https://t.co/f60lITKAeK
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Ronald M. Clifford
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"People suck. Don't be people." -roncli 2019 🙃
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Nifflas
@Nifflas
https://t.co/40yzlOfRR0 <-- I don't want to be on a platform run by an abusive leader and overworked staff. I'm so dependent on twitter for my work though, I've got an essential part of my contact network here, but every second I'm here I feel I'm betraying my morals.

Fuck.
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Zev Eisenberg
@ZevEisenberg @mastodon.social

Huge if true

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Nifflas
@Nifflas @mastodon.gamedev.place

Select which of these two statements you agree with:

1-based indexing is superior.
...or...
0-based indexing is superior.

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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli @mastodon.social

It's definitely a struggle, but I believe the only way to deal with it is to face it unafraid, and learn from every encounter with it. It will still hit me, but I no longer let it control me.

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Ronald M. Clifford
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Competition anxiety is the only type of anxiety I get, at least with any regulatory. It doesn't happen when I play 6DoF games (at least not anymore), but almost any other competitive game I play, the anxiety can strike at any time, and it affects me greatly. I have become much more aware of it lately, and I think that's helped result in days like today where, for a moment, everything seems to be falling apart... but then I understand what is going on and don't let it ruin the rest of my day.

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Ronald M. Clifford
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At the chess club, I played 5 games between two opponents that I have losing records against. I confidently won all five games, even declining a draw because I didn't think I could lose and had a passed pawn.

Later, I got productive, finishing the week's math homework and doing a video presentation for business in one take. And now I'm feeling really good about how the day went, despite that one hiccup early in on.

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Ronald M. Clifford
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An hour later, I played in another Tetris match against an opponent with a lower best score and was playing buzzed. It was a league format where I am not getting eliminated if I do poorly. I got trounced, lost 6-1 over two matches, and couldn't get to level 19 more than one game.

Competition anxiety stuck hard in the second set, and I have no idea why. It tried to frame the remainder of my day. I did not let it.

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Ronald M. Clifford
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Today was a reminder that competition anxiety is fickle and strange.

I played in the events today. The first was Classic Tetris Monthly's tournament, a knockout bracket where I have had mixed results. Today I was up against a maxout player, someone who can score a million points. (my best is 740k). I swept the match 3-0 no problem, and felt good the whole way through.

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Ronald M. Clifford
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False alarm, that was a typo on their part. 🤣 They meant something more sane.

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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli @mastodon.social

Someone at work, who I said probably would have to fix a unit test after a change, just fixed it by making it "Assert.True(true);".

DON'T BE PEOPLE!

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Ronald M. Clifford
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Worked on a remake to an old song from 2003. Got a coworker to play some guitar parts fort it. Sounds amazing! Now I'm wanting to do more music stuff again. If only I had the time!

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Ronald M. Clifford
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Yeah. @BYG_Vancouver. Still awesome. Love that it's the same pose, but in the Rift outfit! https://t.co/8eK89sIKAi
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
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Tumblr may become relevant again, but probably not for a while. There are a number of non-creative projects ahead of it that need doing, so it'll be a while before I regularly put out stuff again. That said, look for something new there in the next few days. 👀
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Ronald M. Clifford
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Caveat on Tumblr: I've been there for about 9 years, back when I decided to split my blog between my creative endeavors (Tumblr) and everything else (Blogger). While I still have the account, I'm not very active on it since my creative endeavors have taken a back seat.
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Yo Twitter folks. You may be making accounts on other sites to hedge your bets when it comes to Twitter's future.

Where did you go? What services do you use?

Me so far:
- Mastodon: @roncli@mastodon.social
- Cohost: https://t.co/dIpEZTcSJl
- Tumblr: https://t.co/U5nc579A4x
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Gary Ashurst🏳️‍🌈
@GaryAshurstArt
Seems the plan now is ad free for paid and free users. Incredible. https://t.co/E5TWV3SDfH
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
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Unless the businesspeople figure out how to successfully do, you know, business, this place's days may very well be numbered.
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
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Being shitty to your workforce, rolling out features no one wants, not addressing PR disasters in a timely or acceptable fashion, belittling a percentage of your user base.
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
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I am taking a business course on information systems at the moment, and this place is hitting on every counterexample we've been learning about.
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
A billionaire practically begging people for single digit dollars over the Internet is peak 2022 capitalism.
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
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That said, if you're going, let me know. I'm not planning to stay long, but I'll definitely make time to say hi. 🙂
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
It occurs to me that Day of the Devs is on the same day, at about the same time, and on the same MUNI line as the League of Legends Worlds finals. That's NOT going to be fun to navigate.
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Ronald M. Clifford
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Pacific Daylight Time ends November 6th, so I imagine what's happening is it's interpreting the time with daylight savings because that's what it is now, and not accounting for daylight savings ending before the date.
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
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I can't remember if I cried
When I read the blue bird's suicide
But something touched me deep inside
The day the conversation died
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
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But October made me shiver
With every story hope would wither
Bad news coming so quick
I couldn't make one more click
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Long long time ago, I can still remember
How that conversation used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people chat
And maybe they'd be happy for a while
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
I wanted to test out @cohost_org but then I ran into this nightmare. Just say no to hostile UX. https://t.co/dpEnGwSqrO
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Well shit. I wasn't going to go to this. Now I feel like I have to! https://t.co/o4GMDBW0Fk
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Apps never tell you what they changed anymore. What bug fixes? What stability improvements? What did they do to space time? Knowing Google, they probably made it worse. https://t.co/b29hitjcE1
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Replying to @roncli

Decided I didn't want to play for weeks on end. https://t.co/qX3ZgjCLQH
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Replying to @roncli

Fireballception. https://t.co/a5YZriV1qS
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Replying to @roncli

Dear god, it's full of, uh..... colors? https://t.co/FcBmkVxPGO
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Replying to @roncli

I somehow made it worse. https://t.co/N01jt1edKK
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
I don't know what's going on. But I don't think I have to. #vampireslayers https://t.co/sX8t2oFkMX
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
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This is JavaScript-level of silliness.

JavaScript, of course, being the language that gives you this true equality:

11 == "1" + "1"
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
I was today years old when I learned this was true in Microsoft SQL Server:

'A' = 'A '

CC: @Nifflas because I'm pretty sure this should be in his new programming language.
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
I'm going to remember this move for the next tournament I play in! 🤣 https://t.co/xfFfu15T41
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
The OTL Mid-Season Invitational has completed the two quarterfinal matches tonight, and both matches went 5 games. I played in 5 of those matches (we won 3-2!) and cast 2 games from the other set.

I am absolutely *spent*. 😴
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
2.1 is not enough, but it is such a perfect place to start, my love. @ClassicTetris
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Ronald M. Clifford
@roncli
Moral of the story: Don't lose to Marts! HEY NOW! https://t.co/FSpQKN1t5G
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